*This was a session at the [Shiny Green Acorn Festival](/Shiny_Green_Acorn_Festival).*
### Participants
- [Brandon](/Brandon) (convener)
- [Eric](/Eric)
- [Ben](/Ben)
### Discussion
Brandon shared that [Shelley](/Shelley) has an allergic reaction to all the labor-inefficient things ecovillagers are supposed to do, like growing our own food
- Eric wants to live in a non-self-sustaining "tribal village" so we can avoid that
- Brandon sees the self-sufficiency goal as generally aimed at survivalism, as in [Hank](/Hank)'s efforts, or at [Windward](/Windward)?