This session also included the [[Mary Mary Quite Contrary]] discussion.
Kim and online classes
* Non-face-to-face teaching is not as high-quality
** Body language and spontaneous interaction are lost
** Higher attrition and failure rate
*** People who do these often do it because they lack the [[motivation]] to go to school
* Goal: make students feel that they're involved in their education
* Currently:
** Students are only looking at a "blackboard"
*** Might start doing audio, but Kim isn't comfortable having video of herself
** Students aren't required to be online at the same time; they can go to "class" anytime
*** One student is a soldier in Afghanistan
** Students can ask each other questions or send anonymous questions to Kim
** Students have to peer-review each other's papers
* Debbie: There's always a dropout rate
** Kim: Higher-level (community college) classes have higher dropout rates
** "Working-class people often sabotage each other" because they don't want friends and coworkers to move ahead and leave, or "take more than their share"
*** Misattributed "Mandela" quote: "Our greatest fear is our own [[power]]"
**** Don't "play small" because you're afraid of making people uncomfortable
**** "Letting your light shine" encourages others to do the same
* Preventing negative remarks about a group, another person, or yourself builds community in regular real-world classes
* Thinking of each other ''as people'':
** Virtual students writing about themselves and responding to each others' writings helps
** Even video of Kim talking that only shows a stuffed animal or puppet could help
*** Debbie did a lesson for "Plato" TV learning that had fun stuff in between segments