''This was a session at [[Sol 2012]].''
Ben: ''Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'' argues that Truth and Quality are a fundamental dualism, and Eric argues that religion should focus solely on "what is good" rather than "what is true," but at the end of the movie ''Contact,'' theologian Palmer Joss claims that both he and Dr. Arroway, the scientist heroine, are engaged in "the pursuit of truth."
* Lion: Theologians can discover objective truth
* Ben: If a bunch of people have the same subjective experience, that's intersubjective, not objective
* Brandon: Morality is a subset of aesthetics ... it's all subjective, even if based on evolution and physics (this idea comes from ''[[The Righteous Mind]]'')
** Shelley and Eric agree; Lion and Ben disagree