October 27, 2013: Online Work Bee

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Contents

Agenda

  • Check In
  • Review WWWs
  • Weekly Events Logistics
  • Review Agenda
  • Children International
  • Spiritual experience experiments
  • Evaluation

Check In

  • Ben ... sleepy. I wish my laptop wasn't dying.
  • Eric ... just got back from UU, and they always make me feel good ... also excited about harvesting my potatoes today

WWWs from last time

  • Ben ... follow your topical community protocol for this week ... ongoing
  • Ben ... meditate and keep track of which days ... ongoing
  • Ben ... buy some green food coloring ... by Saturday November 2
  • Ben ... test floating my candles ... by next call
  • Brandon ... follow your topical community protocol for this week ... ongoing
  • Brandon ... meditate and keep track of which days ... ongoing
  • Brandon ... create the fossil shakers ... by next week
  • Eric ... follow your topical community protocol for this week ... ongoing
  • Eric ... meditate and keep track of which days ... ongoing
  • Eric ... order some boric acid and test it out ...

WWWs

  • Brandon ... follow your topical community protocol for this week ... ongoing
  • Brandon ... meditate and keep track of which days ... ongoing
  • Eric... follow your topical community protocol for this week ... ongoing
  • Eric ... meditate and keep track of which days ... ongoing
  • Eric ... Send recipe for galaxy plate to everyone ... by tonight
  • Eric ... Write community garden sponsership proposal ... by next call
  • Eric ... Spend some time creating pages on call subjects ... by next call
  • Ben ... follow your topical community protocol for this week ... ongoing
  • Ben ... meditate and keep track of which days ... ongoing
  • Ben ... check with the Sanders about revised meeting times ... by tonight
  • Ben ... do a draft proposal about Children International ... by next call

Weekly Events Logistics

Service rotation: Eric, Shelley, Brandon, Ben

  • November 2 Service: tentatively 8:45 am PDT (11:45 EDT) (Ben) Last week of Viventibus Mundos
  • November 9 Service: 9:00 am PDT (12:00 EDT) (Eric) First week of Viventibus Galaxia
  • November 3 Work-Bee: tentatively 4:30 pm PDT (19:30 EDT) (Ben will be returning from Bioneers about then)
  • November 17 Seeing Nature Readings and Practices (Ottawa): 13:00 EST

Children International

  • A charity that gives you some contact with the people you're helping ("your chance to build a lifelong friendship with an impoverished child")
    • For $25 per month, you become a sponsor for a single child
  • Eric has heard of a religious group that does something similar, but drops support for any child who becomes pregnant because she's a "sinner"
    • Children International doesn't appear to be religious, but Eric thinks the group he's thinking of hides their religious nature to some degree

Spiritual Experience Experiments

  • List of ideas for experiences: Direct experiences that lead to religiousness
  • What would the experiments look like?
    • Eric: Is the experience of watching a movie that supports the upward spiral distinguishable from that of watching one that supports the downward spiral ("filled with orange explosions that teach us to cheer for death")?
      • Avatar" does both
      • The value judgments involved lead to a temptation to twist the data toward what we want it to say
      • Ideally we'd have randomly chosen research subjects who don't know which group they're in
    • Ben: How do we handle the subjectivity of the data? Is there a baseline we can reliably measure against?
      • Eric: Break up the problem into smaller chunks, e.g. compare movies about revenge with movies about building a relationship
      • Ben: Each participant would probably have to watch both types of movie
  • Questionnaire design
    • Ben: Degree of epiphany or life-changingness seems difficult to ask about in a coherent, scientifically valid way
    • Eric: Ask about it 6 different ways and use a 5-point rating scale (Eric read about this technique in a literature review paper)
    • Eric: We should do a literature review ourselves (which might require money for accessing the relevant articles, although we could use Patrick's university account)

Evaluation

  • Ben ... Its 11:38 and I feel we have made good progress ... I would like to thank Eric for discussing the topics that I wanted to discuss. Ouch Petra quit digging your claws into my leg.
  • Petra Meow but I like the feel of my claws in your flesh. I just want to hold on to you because I love you so much.
  • Eric ... This was a good call ... we covered a couple of topics that we've put off for way too long ... I'm going to go harvest potatoes now
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